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Are you overwhelmed with dark feelings of despair? Have you suffered a loss and are having a difficult time coping? If you or someone you love is suffering from depression or is grief-stricken, you know it can be a struggle, but you don’t need to suffer in silence. Share your story here.

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Replied By: yesyoucan on Apr 2, 2015, 10:26PM - In reply to ruggedman
 
Dr. Phil gives this link for grief that may help...

http://www.helpguide.org/articles/grief-loss/coping-with-grief-and-loss.htm

What helps me is watching Joel Osteen. Going for walks. This is a photo from today that my husband took of Wisteria bush on our farm. Grief counseling helped that met at a church. Often times a professional counselor will hold grief counseling at a church for a place for everyone to meet. They asked for minimum 50 cents per person yet that wasn't even required if didn't have 50 cents. I imagine it varies and some may even be completely free.

My grief was over the loss of loved ones so it helped me to realize that they wouldn't want me to become entombed in grief. It didn't happen over night and even now I miss my loved ones who have parted yet try to find ways to celebrate their memory. Poetry, planting a rose bush, collecting seashells in memory of mother. My husband got me yearbooks from my parents high schools, though, wish I'd had when they were alive as they would have LOVED to see... Nonetheless, happy to have. I've grieved over many things I've lost in life as have many and even, now, still remember a Cavalier King Charles dog I had when a teen. I hope that you find positive ways to heal and that any day that you feel especially low something appears to cheer you up.

An amazing thing happened to me one day is that I realized that often when I prayed for miracles I spent so much time praying that I didn't look up long enough to see prayers answered. In 20/20 hindsight, I see so many answered prayers I missed not believing would be answered. Believing IS seeing... And, yet, until I began watching Joel Osteen after mother passed away I didn't believe anything could ease the pain yet did. I had woken up at 4 a.m. grieving and had clicked on channel with Joel Osteen by accident when turning TV off after watching scriptures with pretty scenery on another channel on mute to not wake up anyone. Joel Osteen message was about rising from the ashes to grasp the beauty of today. That was almost exactly twelve years ago and I still watch most every week since he's a cheerleader for life.

Reminds me of a saying that helps me when anything appears insurmountable in my life: Grandmother often told me at these times, "Things have a ways of working out..." which seemed a bit cavalier to me at the time. My mother would always retort when grandmother said this, "God helps he who helps himself." Though, I believe mother interjected she and herself. They were both right. That helps me and sometimes repeating "Fear not. Have faith;" I think due to the emotional association these word combinations have to me. We are all individuals and just like shoes aren't one size fits all what works for one person doesn't always work for another and we have to shop around. I pray you find positive things that help you. It sounds like you are being proactive and even coming here was proactive. Keep reaching out and within until you find the positive help that positively helps. BTW: St. Anthony is a cool Saint.

Leaving you and everyone in God's hands via prayer. Peace be with you and us all...

 
Replied By: ruggedman on Mar 24, 2015, 11:43AM
Dr. Phil does a very good job of taking on the issue of grief that makes sense. Except, he has missed a crucial connection: grief is not logical, it is emotional.

Emotion is not connected to logic; in fact they may be light-years apart.

My heart would not believe my brain. So, to try to get emotional comfort, I went to church to visit with the girl of my dreams (she is in His house) and talked with her and prayed and cried a lot. I put my entire being in the hands of Jesus. I told him I cannot handle my pain alone as it is too great and asked for His help. I am now in His hands and at his mercy.

I followed this up with several prayers to Saint Anthony, (Saint of miracles; Saint of help).

Is there anything else I can or should do? Is there a unique way to rethink my attitude on her death?


 
Replied By: yesyoucan on Feb 25, 2015, 2:17PM - In reply to macrane0603
I hope it gets better soon, too.  That's my prayer too...  One of my fave quotes of Dr. Phil's that I can relate to is, "You are never alone if you are there for you."  I always add, Be There.  You reaching out here shows you are there for you so I have confidence that if YOU keep being there for you... things WILL get better.  Believing is seeing...
 
Replied By: macrane0603 on Feb 21, 2015, 9:34PM - In reply to yesyoucan
Thank you ever so kindly for those resources and I will look into them.  It's just been very hard and I'm glad someone finally gets it.  I hope it gets better soon.
 
Replied By: yesyoucan on Feb 19, 2015, 11:33PM - In reply to macrane0603
So sorry for all you've been through.  I can see in your words that you are feeling overwhelmed.  Dr. Phil's son began Doctor on Demand where you can speak with a doctor 24/7 online should you feel the need.  You can find if you Google Doctor on Demand.  Then, too, if you click "General and Mental Health Resources" above top comment above here there are LOTS of resources there too.  Talking about here can help sometimes too...  If you keep reaching out as you did coming here you will find the help that helps so don't give up.  It is okay to ask for help. 

First link below helpguide.org is a link Dr. Phil has recommended to all of us here in a video message to us all.  

Second link has some emails and looks pretty current and was on the news in my community.  The ladies who give their email addresses there may know of some resources, too.  

The third link is a link to Dr. Phil's advice on Postpartum Depression.  

Not sure if anything I said will help yet I sure hope does.  I wanted you to know that someone heard and that I'm praying for you.  That's quite a wonderful accomplishment to get a degree in accounting.  Good for you!  My mother was an accountant for many years in the insurance industry for Aetna, Cigna and Fireman's Fund and really enjoyed.  

http://www.helpguide.org/articles/depression/postpartum-depression-and-the-baby-blues.htm

http://www.wingsforwellness.org/sgroup.html

http://drphil.com/articles/article/159 

Late and need to turn in so I don't keep my husband up typing on computer.  Take care of yourself.  

SELF MATTERS INCLUDES YOU...
 
Replied By: macrane0603 on Feb 18, 2015, 11:15AM
Hello all,



I've been suffering from postpartum depression for over a year now.  I'm currently taking Prozac an Klonopin for the postpartum and for OCPD I was diagnoised with back in September 2014.  I'm not sure what to do at this point in my life or what avenue to turn to.  


To begin when my husband and I got married in June 2011 we had a lot of transitioning we went through. I graduated college, married my husband, we both lost our jobs, we both found new jobs, both our cars died and we needed a new one, we found out the day after X-Mas 2011 I was pregnant and lost the baby January 2012.  Went through a 2 year struggle of not getting pregnant and suffering from the weight gain and depression from that.

In the last year its been extremely stressful.  Long story short for 2013 to 2014:

Found out pregnant in July 2013.
Put on medical leave from working August of 2013.
Entire pregnancy was high risk and water broke in December 2013.
Baby was due March 2014.
Baby born 9 weeks early January 2014
I had two teeth removed and two drilled in February 2014. 
We got a new car February 2014
Moved March 2014
Husband changed jobs April 2014
Found out my husband has diabetes April 2014
I had my gallbladder removed May 2014
Found a house to buy in early June 2014
Father in law that lived with us was given 6 to 8 months to live with progressed dementia
Husband lost his job June 2014
Husband got new job July 2014
Got on anti depressants and a sedative on my birthday in September 2014.
Signed on house September 2014
Moved to new house October 2014
Father in law died a week later October 2014
My uncle passed on December 2014.

Things have calmed down a bit since, but now the intimacy between my husband and I has been strained.  He wants sex all the time and I don't want it at all.  I recently fell down the stair with the baby about a month ago.  The baby wasn't hurt at all and I took the entire fall.  I had a 12 bruise on my rear end and since then I haven't been able to stand, walk, or do anything for more than 30 to 45 minutes at a time because my tailbone and back hurt so much.  It's getting to be extremely frustrating.  I barely eat once a day, I'm tired all the time, I care for our child all day everyday while he works 5 to 6 days a week.  I appreciate him working and supporting our family.  I wish I could find work.  I've been on many interviews and have had no luck in my job search.  I have my degree in accounting and almost my masters.  I've taken a break from school because I just can't handle it anymore.  I'm burnt out with life.  I can barely stand to hear my child fuss, whine, and cry anymore.  I feel selfish for feeling this way.  I'm also lucky to shower every 5 to 7 days.  I cook, clean, do laundry, organize, child care, and have to be a loving wife and mother.  I feel that I'm failing at all of it anymore.  I let the house go sometimes for too long for me anyway, others would think I'm crazy.  I'm obsessed with cleaning and keeping the house a certain way.  I've gotten to a point I just don't care anymore.  Most days I just want to get through the day and get to bed and pray I can get through the next day without any issues.  I don't get out of the house much and have no desire to be around people.  I've taught myself how to crochet and knit recently and work on projects constantly to get my mind off of things, but that rarely works.  

I'm fed up with life and living.  It's selfish and my husband and child don't deserve a mother and wife like that.  I want to feel better, but I'm also to a point where I'm beaten down and weighted down and just don't want to fight life anymore.

I need help, but not sure what to do or turn to.  I know there are doctors and more pills and therapy, but I've done all of that and nothing is working at this point.  I'm just done.
 
Replied By: yesyoucan on Feb 15, 2015, 10:17AM - In reply to scarlett99
Scarlet, I hope things are going better for you.  Something that helps me to point my thoughts in a positive direction is watching Joel Osteen as I did this a.m.  What helps you?  I can SO relate with not having the dollars to buy the healthier foods although I haven't read Dr. Phil's book 20/20 yet.  I do have his Ultimate Weight Loss Solution book.  

When I took the Dr. Phil quiz to see my obstacle in weight loss it was commitment.  Whereas I cannot afford all the healthier items, especially fish (which I love)...  I CAN give up seconds and thirds and exercise more.  I have resumed exercising while watching Dr. Phil's son, Jay's show, The Doctors.  Although, exercising watching Dr. Phil and my other fave shows will work too... 

When we moved I sold my heavy exercise equipment and kept putting off exercising watching The Doctors, as I had, until I replaced after moved.  Then, a year later, I realized I could use my ballet exercises I learned in my youth.  So, I got out a chair and now (for past four months) I  do ballet type exercises watching the doctors.  Dr. Phil talking about his new book, 20/20, did remind me I needed to "commit" to hopping back into the driver seat of my life (for life) and utilize what IS available to me to lead a healtheir life.

Did you know that just sucking in your stomach is exercise equivalent to sit ups without the strain on your neck?  I suck in my abdomen every day, ten or more times, and have seen my stomach firming up and my back pain is going away as often will when strengthen abdominal muscles.  Also, got out of my exercising habit since in country our DISH didn't pick up The Doctors on channel 21 until this year.  Not sure why yet SO HAPPY can get The Doctors channel 21, now!!!  YAY! 

That's no excuse though because I could have exercised watching Dr. Phil.  It is easy if things aren't perfect to throw in the towel and even a trend now.  However, Dr. Phil says "life isn't cured it is managed." I still don't have exercise equipment I had in Dallas, however, my contingency plan of doing ballet exercises I learned in my youth and going for walks works too.  Like you, I don't have the money to get the best health foods most the diets recommend.  Example:  Nuts like almonds are expensive!  However, I am avoiding eating for entertainment rather than nourishment and I am exercising again.  

I think when you've been through a lot as most of us here have.  It is easy to give up since already feel beaten down.  So I'm reaching a hand out to you to improvise with what you have to make the healthy choices you can with what IS available to you.  Our best is all any of us can do and, you know, that can bring results too.  Trust in yourself and you'll see a way to a healthier you.  The hardest part is committing yet you can.  I did by hopping into the driver seat of my life using what IS available to me and IS in my control.  Wishing you health and happiness always.  Me too.  WE too.  

Your fellow member, yesyoucan aka yyc aka SEA...
 
Replied By: scarlett99 on Feb 2, 2015, 8:45PM
i am depressed all the time. one thing is i ran out of the dr phil food and i am feeling low because i dont have all the food his book calls for. i have 55lbs to lose which sucks. and i have trouble communicating with my 24 yr old son, he is a know it all. i have trouble letting go of the past. i feel worthless, and no motivation. can you help me? love connie
 
Replied By: yesyoucan on Jan 29, 2015, 6:42PM - In reply to imkayleesmom
From experience I've learned the hard way that guilt trips are expensive trips to go on or send others on so best to unpack your and everyone's bags.  Your twin siblings will likely always be a unified force since bonds of twins usually very strong.  I understand your feeling teamed up against yet I think it is more twin dynamics than anything.  That doesn't make any easier.  

For so long many talk shows talked about freeing self of toxic relationships yet assertiveness can be a lonely place all for the sake of being right.  I think Dr. Phil often says, "Best to just agree to disagree" and "someone needs to be a hero."  I nominate you to be the hero for you and your family.  Resentment takes a lot of energy leading to everyone reacting in want of a better response.  

It is easy to let the past scribble all over present relationships yet I have learned the hard way lots of time can be lost in camp despair.  Not saying this well yet don't allow your resentment to paint you into a corner.  You asked what helps.  Watching Joel Osteen helps me to rise from the ashes of the past to grasp the beauty of today.  People aren't perfect and never will be... including your twin siblings.  

When my parents passed there were lots of things that gnawed on me that were less than perfect.  So glad finally my thoughts don't drudge up although right now this moment I could fish into my memories to retrieve and share.  I guess time does heal as it wasn't always that way.  It is hard losing someone we love yet it is even sadder if we lose ourself in the sadness of it all.  


Your mom would want you to be happy and not fight old battles for her as it won't bring her back yet will keep you from enjoying your present by not being fully present.  We can't drive a car looking in a rear view mirror and neither can we effectively live our lives always looking back.  Life is like economics:  choice.  Hop out of the passenger seat looking over your shoulder to past resentments no matter how justified they are.  You have a life to live... yours... so hop on over in the driver seat with both eyes on your present and all those dear to you in the here and now.  Sure celebrate and hold onto your best memories with your mom.


THE GIFT OF YOU  

Not only is today a gift since the present 

You are a gift 

Being present...  


Be present for you and your family and hold onto the precious moments with your mom that you were blessed to have.  Time is precious and I have learned that I don't want to waste precious moments keeping score for then everyone loses...  That said... vent all you want here.  We all have.  You might benefit from group grief counseling even now.  Some are held in churches and a hospital chaplain may know of one.  


There are stages of grief and even now daggers of less than perfect events can pierce my heart when a less than perfect memory pops up.  Now, though, I try not to roll the reels of haunted memory lane as I've lost WAY too much of my present doing so.  Too, sometimes when sipping on sadness I'd have an expression to match some past event that totally didn't mesh with my present and would have persons wondering what was wrong with me.  I wasn't fully present.  As well, sometimes I held persons chained to the past of who they were instead of who they'd grown into or were now.  Dr. Phil says, "You are never alone if you are there for you."  Be There.
 
Replied By: yesyoucan on Jan 29, 2015, 6:18PM - In reply to calisimek
So sorry for your loss and grief...  What are some of your special memories of your grandpa?  I enjoyed fishing with mine and I make pies to feel close to my grandmother since a special memory of mine of her.
 
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