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In 2010, Tommy’s 19-month-old son, Darby, and 4-year-old stepdaughter, Kiera, mysteriously died three months apart -- and he says he believes his ex-wife, Julia, and her new husband, Codey, killed them. Although Julia and Codey vehemently deny any wrongdoing, they say Tommy and his mother, Cheryl, have engaged in a massive crusade online and in the media, labeling them as “baby killers.” The couple face their accusers on Dr. Phil’s stage. How do Julia and Codey explain what happened to Darby and Kiera? Don’t miss part two tomorrow, when forensic pathologist Dr. Cyril Wecht reviews the children’s autopsies -- what does he conclude? And, will Julia and Codey agree to take polygraph tests?

Find out what happened on the show.
Replied By: amphioxys on Mar 6, 2015, 4:47PM - In reply to redthorns
I also watched the shows in Denmark. Almost a year has passed and I would really like to know what happened!
Replied By: redthorns on Mar 3, 2015, 5:14AM
I would love an Update on this one. Just Saw it here in Denmark and really Want to know what has happend since this aired.

Cant you force people to take those liedetector tests? 
Replied By: maxikaika on Jan 14, 2015, 8:06AM
This story had me in tears and I truly believe the mother and her husband are guilty of killing these children.

I've looked online for any update to see if the parents have been arrested yet but I can't find anything.  Does anyone know any info on this case?
Replied By: nederland1963 on Nov 27, 2014, 4:01AM - In reply to krista8527
I don't believe she's kill her kids, it's the stepfather for sure, she knows that but she's afraid of that creepy guy with no feelings, when the questions are coming he looks tot the ground, she knows he has done it but she is afraid tot to the lie-detector-test cause he don't want to do this test, in my opinion is she also quilty as he, i am shocked, i am father to!
Replied By: marysirish on Nov 24, 2014, 5:08PM
The doctor said that sids most likely occur during the 2 months and 4 months, well I know 3 people, one has lost their child at the age of 6 weeks and the other has lost their kids at the age of 13 months and the last one has lost their child at the age of 18 months, so it don't only happening between the 2 and 4 months.
Replied By: hollybarr on Oct 14, 2014, 11:21AM
My heart goes out to them two angels, it is so obvious to the world what happened. the devil has two more souls on the way.
Replied By: anitafrydenlun on Oct 9, 2014, 9:14AM
I must say i am in chok, the whole World Can see who is right and wrong, if they want the world to belive them they should have taken the liedetector test, i hope that the police is doing all they Can to build a strong case and give Tommy and his mom some peace, and some Rights for these beautiful children. I hope we get an opdate om this show.
Replied By: qsfromlola on Oct 2, 2014, 12:35AM
Curious as to why most everyone is shifting the blame or the bulk of blame onto the shifty step dad, and not Julia ?? I cannot dispute he is one creepy dude. He gave me the willies. But I have studied mothers with  Münchausen syndrome and Munchausen by Proxy ( BTW, they are two different disorders). Based on the testimony of the ex during their time together, I think she fits the bill.

He mentioned her fake stomach tumor and claiming to have chronic illnesses like Lupus, which she seemed to be cured of randomly. Lupus causes great suffering in those afflicted by the disease, and certainly, folks who are bedridden all day cannot bounce back by night to go and party, as her ex intimated. I really dislike people who claim to have chronic illnesses that can or cannot be confirmed, other than through doctor's opinion and possibly, a set of qualitative tests ( like fibromyalgia and the trigger pain point test &/or questionnaire rating the average pain scale).  Too many people falsely claim to have this diagnosis, making those truly afflicted even more stigmatized.

According to Wikipedia, Münchausen syndrome, is a psychiatric factitious disorder wherein those affected feign disease, illness, or psychological trauma to draw attention, sympathy, or reassurance to themselves.  True Münchausen syndrome fits within the subclass of factitious disorder & they also have a history of recurrent, dramatic, untrue, and extremely improbable tales of their past experience (yes, yes & yes).

Münchausen syndrome is related to Münchausen syndrome by proxy, which refers to the abuse of another person, typically a child, in order to seek attention or sympathy for the abuser. 

Her ex mentioned hearing the baby cry suddenly when Julia was alone with him and claiming the baby fell. Certainly if she slept all day, she was neglecting her parental responsibilities. I understand what prescription pill addiction is and how one can lose sight of their responsibilities. Since she doctor shopped to get all of those scripts, and she confirmed she had an issue, in fairness, that was probably a big contributor. But that same behavior is part of Münchausen syndrome and the addiction could have been her excuse for her neglect in the eyes of others, again looking for sympathy at her plight.

Anyway, I think the step dad and Julia know what happened. I just don't excuse Julia from the equation like many others on this forum. She didn't cry a genuine tear until she was "embarrassed" by the audience's reaction to her not believing the pathology expert. 

The police seem the most incompetent in this case. I've never heard of the parents getting off like this except under cases of Münchausen because the mother can act the role of grieving parent so well that it fools some police into thinking they are not culpable.

Replied By: isitjustmeor on Sep 8, 2014, 7:51AM
I think this may be one of those rare-as-hens-teeth cases where the indominatable Dr Phil may have missed a mark or two.  Whilst bursting with admiration for Dr Phil's exceptional skills, this case left me very uncomfortable, primarily due to the poor/narrow choice of experts.  True expertise requires piercing critical thought and proactive updating of knowledge - more than just clocking up hours of experience or securing good job titles. 

There are sound scientific reasons to suspect hemorrhage and fractures due to other rarer causes (too many to detail here), as well as the involvement of multi-valent vaccine preparations given in the weeks prior.  The right specialists could have spoken to these issues, creating a much more balanced case and informing the direction (either way) of further investigations.

I feel sorry for the mother, whose strong instincts were clearly irreconcilable with the opinions of the selected experts.  It was painful watching her trying so hard to accomodate the information, while every ounce of her being was pushing back in favor of a deeper kind of knowing.

I do wish the pair of them had taken the test, but can understand their fear under the circumstances.
Replied By: daphilu on Aug 21, 2014, 9:33AM
This show reduced me to tears.  God gave Tommy strength, I know I would've wanted to demonstrate on Codey what Blunt Force Trauma was At the time he declined a polygraph. If I'd lost 2 of my babies I think I'd die of a broken heart.  I do hope we hear of arrests in the very near future. Thank you Dr.Phil for bringing these subjects to the forefront and always protecting our young. Love your work xx
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