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In 2010, Tommy’s 19-month-old son, Darby, and 4-year-old stepdaughter, Kiera, mysteriously died three months apart -- and he says he believes his ex-wife, Julia, and her new husband, Codey, killed them. Although Julia and Codey vehemently deny any wrongdoing, they say Tommy and his mother, Cheryl, have engaged in a massive crusade online and in the media, labeling them as “baby killers.” The couple face their accusers on Dr. Phil’s stage. How do Julia and Codey explain what happened to Darby and Kiera? Don’t miss part two tomorrow, when forensic pathologist Dr. Cyril Wecht reviews the children’s autopsies -- what does he conclude? And, will Julia and Codey agree to take polygraph tests?

Find out what happened on the show.
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Replied By: hollybarr on Oct 14, 2014, 11:21AM
My heart goes out to them two angels, it is so obvious to the world what happened. the devil has two more souls on the way.
 
Replied By: anitafrydenlun on Oct 9, 2014, 9:14AM
I must say i am in chok, the whole World Can see who is right and wrong, if they want the world to belive them they should have taken the liedetector test, i hope that the police is doing all they Can to build a strong case and give Tommy and his mom some peace, and some Rights for these beautiful children. I hope we get an opdate om this show.
 
Replied By: qsfromlola on Oct 2, 2014, 12:35AM
Curious as to why most everyone is shifting the blame or the bulk of blame onto the shifty step dad, and not Julia ?? I cannot dispute he is one creepy dude. He gave me the willies. But I have studied mothers with  Münchausen syndrome and Munchausen by Proxy ( BTW, they are two different disorders). Based on the testimony of the ex during their time together, I think she fits the bill.

He mentioned her fake stomach tumor and claiming to have chronic illnesses like Lupus, which she seemed to be cured of randomly. Lupus causes great suffering in those afflicted by the disease, and certainly, folks who are bedridden all day cannot bounce back by night to go and party, as her ex intimated. I really dislike people who claim to have chronic illnesses that can or cannot be confirmed, other than through doctor's opinion and possibly, a set of qualitative tests ( like fibromyalgia and the trigger pain point test &/or questionnaire rating the average pain scale).  Too many people falsely claim to have this diagnosis, making those truly afflicted even more stigmatized.

According to Wikipedia, Münchausen syndrome, is a psychiatric factitious disorder wherein those affected feign disease, illness, or psychological trauma to draw attention, sympathy, or reassurance to themselves.  True Münchausen syndrome fits within the subclass of factitious disorder & they also have a history of recurrent, dramatic, untrue, and extremely improbable tales of their past experience (yes, yes & yes).

Münchausen syndrome is related to Münchausen syndrome by proxy, which refers to the abuse of another person, typically a child, in order to seek attention or sympathy for the abuser. 

Her ex mentioned hearing the baby cry suddenly when Julia was alone with him and claiming the baby fell. Certainly if she slept all day, she was neglecting her parental responsibilities. I understand what prescription pill addiction is and how one can lose sight of their responsibilities. Since she doctor shopped to get all of those scripts, and she confirmed she had an issue, in fairness, that was probably a big contributor. But that same behavior is part of Münchausen syndrome and the addiction could have been her excuse for her neglect in the eyes of others, again looking for sympathy at her plight.

Anyway, I think the step dad and Julia know what happened. I just don't excuse Julia from the equation like many others on this forum. She didn't cry a genuine tear until she was "embarrassed" by the audience's reaction to her not believing the pathology expert. 

The police seem the most incompetent in this case. I've never heard of the parents getting off like this except under cases of Münchausen because the mother can act the role of grieving parent so well that it fools some police into thinking they are not culpable.





 
Replied By: isitjustmeor on Sep 8, 2014, 7:51AM
I think this may be one of those rare-as-hens-teeth cases where the indominatable Dr Phil may have missed a mark or two.  Whilst bursting with admiration for Dr Phil's exceptional skills, this case left me very uncomfortable, primarily due to the poor/narrow choice of experts.  True expertise requires piercing critical thought and proactive updating of knowledge - more than just clocking up hours of experience or securing good job titles. 

There are sound scientific reasons to suspect hemorrhage and fractures due to other rarer causes (too many to detail here), as well as the involvement of multi-valent vaccine preparations given in the weeks prior.  The right specialists could have spoken to these issues, creating a much more balanced case and informing the direction (either way) of further investigations.

I feel sorry for the mother, whose strong instincts were clearly irreconcilable with the opinions of the selected experts.  It was painful watching her trying so hard to accomodate the information, while every ounce of her being was pushing back in favor of a deeper kind of knowing.

I do wish the pair of them had taken the test, but can understand their fear under the circumstances.
 
Replied By: daphilu on Aug 21, 2014, 9:33AM
This show reduced me to tears.  God gave Tommy strength, I know I would've wanted to demonstrate on Codey what Blunt Force Trauma was At the time he declined a polygraph. If I'd lost 2 of my babies I think I'd die of a broken heart.  I do hope we hear of arrests in the very near future. Thank you Dr.Phil for bringing these subjects to the forefront and always protecting our young. Love your work xx
 
Replied By: kylily on Aug 21, 2014, 7:48AM
I can't understand this woman. I believe the new husband is guilty for sure, he did a lot of hard swallowing when confronted with evidence by experts contrary to what they were saying and when asked to do a polygraph straight out without thought said no! Then changed the mothers mind when she had agreed. Something very nasty going on in that family. Poor little kids and the poor biological father and family.
 
Replied By: strine on Aug 21, 2014, 12:13AM
I noticed when she was confronted about the broken bones that she changed to defending herself and him rather than questioning who could have done it (like a normal caring parents would do if they just found out their children had broken bones).

She was so emotionally removed from her children that she didn't even care if they were killed, she cares more about herself and him and the facade they have built around themselves to not face the consequences of their crimes.

She knows what happened to her children, but she will lie as long as she and he are together. Even if they break up, she will lie and pin it all on him. Or he will kill her so she isn't alive to pin it all on him. She deserves whatever is coming to her and so does he, they deserve to be scared that something will happen to them just like the kids were. No justice for her kids because she is a narcissistic individual like Casey Anthony.
 
Replied By: aristocrat56 on Aug 20, 2014, 11:11PM - In reply to forresa
So "Forresa"  you're assuming that Dr Phil and the experts don't have the credentials or the knowledge to make a judgement?   Their good name is at stake -  they would have made a very careful analysis of the facts before they opened their mouths.  They have decades of learning and experience in their chosen fields.  So, because you don't believe any of it, you would do your own autopsy?
 
Replied By: jenamarie686 on Jul 1, 2014, 12:13PM
How in the world could you say no to a polygraph concerning your children!!!! And I seriously hope the police is working so hard to investigate and get justice for those 2 babies!! I feel awful for the dad, you can see his pain!! False autoposy?? This is just ridiculous!! They have experts telling her the injuries to the body and all she can do is shake her head and say their wrong?! That's crazy!!!! I hope you'll do a update as soon as you know something!!
 
Replied By: samsnewplace on May 31, 2014, 10:27PM
I would love an update on this and I hope these two are one day put in prison for the rest of their lives. I will have faith in the officials involved and the courts once they are on trial. They are both guilty, either in actions or knowledge of actions done by one and silenced by the other. Please keep us informed for the justice of those two babies.
 
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