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(Original Air Date: 10/30/12) Dr. Phil examines a high school incident that involves lawsuits, death threats and both sides feeling bullied. Sixteen-year-old Katie says her classmate Nick turned against her and started recruiting people to join a "Kill Katie Klub." She says the taunting by her classmates escalated and forced her to quit school. Katie's mom, Giselle, says her daughter -- once, a popular cheerleader with good grades -- is now homeschooled and has lost everything. Giselle says her attempts to remedy the situation with parents and school officials fell on deaf ears, so she was forced to go to the police, resulting in backlash from her community. Giselle says she wants Nick and his parents, Michelle and Daniel, to take responsibility. Michelle and Daniel speak out exclusively to Dr. Phil, insisting that Nick was just making a joke about starting a “Kill Katie Klub,” and that it went no further. They say that they’ve held their son accountable, and they just want the drama to end. Is Giselle perpetuating the situation? Sparks fly when these families face off. Can Dr. Phil help them broker a peace?

Find out what happened on the show.
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Replied By: beejfarrell on Jun 16, 2013, 3:38PM
I'm so sorry sweet girl that you have been hurt.  With time you will heal.  Hard times can break you or help you to grow stronger in spirit.  You have great support across this world but most importantly, from your mom Giselle.  She has fought not only to protect you but to bring awareness to this issue.  Everyone viewing could see the sadness and frustration you and your mom were feeling at being lumped in with the bully's family.  I believe that through the efforts of Nick's father and their attorney leading up to the show that sympathy was generated for Nick because of the backlash he has received.  He is a child too so this understandable.  


But Michelle and her daughter did not exhibit accountability or remorse.  So, I, like so many others, felt Dr. Phil missed the mark.  Either that, or he is truly a genius and realized that in her smugness, Michelle would  be unable to hide her true feelings and attitude even just for the entirety of the show.  The grace, courage and compassion exhibited by your mom was in stark contrast to Michelle's.  You should feel very proud and grateful to have been given such a fine parenting example.  My mom is the kindest, most generous of spirit person I have ever known and that is one of the greatest gifts I have ever been given.  So in conclusion, please try to find it in your heart to forgive the harsh and insensitive antics of Nick and the other high schoolers and the meanness and immaturityof the adults that have contributed to the problem.  God Bless you.


It was apparent that Michele felt so smug by the end of the program that she was unable to control her emotions and atitude 
 
Replied By: jmorris46 on Jun 15, 2013, 1:53PM
I'm curious as to why they called the club KKK instead of KKC, if it was so innocent. I didn't understand why Dr. Phil didn't ask that.  I talked to a few of my friends who saw the same show and immediately thought the same thing!  I don't think anything that young man or his family did was innocent.  I watched the sister and mother's faces and there were constant smirks.  Very suspect!
 
Replied By: eqnurse on Jun 14, 2013, 10:26PM
This episode left more questions than answers for me. The dynamics of bullying has changed in recent years, but are the bullies and the bullied really that different from, say 40 years ago? Does parental intervention of recent years hurt or help the situation?  


There is so much information and education on stopping the bullies, but little education for the bullied--or their parents. Was Katie's Mom doing the right thing by interfearing as much as she did? To me it seemed like she was teaching her daughter how to be a victim and not a survivor. What coping skills were brought to the table?  Not that any child wants to be a victim of bullying, but are some setting themselves up for it? Not that I am blaming the victim here, but shouldn't we be teaching them differently?


We as adults all know "life is not fair" or do we? 
 
Replied By: dagtag on Jun 14, 2013, 9:39PM
I have watched enough shows to know that Dr. Phil has issues with "right fighting," or trying to be "right" at the expense of solving the problem through cooperation and compromise (as in both sides accepting responsibility). Whereas I agree with Dr. Phil in theory, in practical application, the major responsibility for a problem often lies with one party more than with the other.  

This bullying situation is one of those practical ones--I think it was clear to many viewers, including myself, that Katie was indeed being bullied by Nick (and also by others, including Nick's sister).  Though Giselle may have been able to do more to diffuse the situation, the fact is that when one is given few options to legally stop bullying, she may redouble efforts to use all availble options, including the media. Often all it takes media exposure to put a quick stop to something, and Giselle was wise to employ this option.  Consider the Steubenville rape case:  It was the media exposure of the boys' criminial behavior and egregiously flippant attitudes that finally brought justice in that case.

The irony is that if the Katie had (God forbid) committed suicide because of the bullying by Nick and others, everyone would be all about candlelight vigils and Facebook tribute pages.  But Giselle, in trying to intervene BEFORE something tragic happens, is open to all sorts of criticism for doing the only thing that she could effectively do to remedy the situation.  Good for her for taking the heat in protection of her daughter...I would do the same.

That Nick's mom chose to give the Cheshire cat grin to Giselle in front of everyone makes this "case closed" for me.  Forget "right fighting."  Giselle and her daughter were in the right. Period.  Thanks to Nick's mom for showing her true colors. If she did that on TV (and if their snooty daughter said what she said), can you imagine what they were doing behind Katie's and Giselle's backs?  Wow.  And their "apologies" were hollow and meaningless.

Let's deal with the Nicks now before they become something much worse and menacing later on....then we don't have to look in retrospect and say, "Well, we should have seen that coming..."       
 
Replied By: try2bepositive on Jun 14, 2013, 8:40PM
One minute being serious about this and their son's future and the next both parents smiling in a smirking manner many times. Their daughter has a smirk. The catty hand wave to ugh!!!! And I love my pet cats so I hate even saying that. I really dislike this quality in women as a woman.

If someone or some kid said they would or wanted to kill their son even as a joke I think the smirking would end. They do not like Giselle. I would say they think she is funny and seemed to make fun of her too. The fact is Giselle is a very pretty, in shape and young looking mom and Nick's mom not so much. I think her smirking and hand waving come from this. Great the boy stepped up and told some of the truth of his part while other kids did not.


Maybe the kids could have worked out together or not sooner without parents. Katie is pretty and seems smart maybe some kids are jealous of her and her mom. I have seen women attractive but not as a attractive as others, go after the prettier women with remarks and bad behavior as adults and teens. It is immature and nasty.  If indeed Katie did not have as many friends as Nick or others, no reason to be mean to her. Reason for Nick and most certainly his parents to be kind to a child who needs more friends. The sister smirking one minute and then the next all serious about her brother's welfare is too much like her mom sad to say. At times while mom is smirking, dad looks kind of ill at ease, but this is the wife he chose and I bet he wants to keep the peace with her.
Just sad because kids can feel so alone and rejected and want to die because high school can seem endless to them. I hope smirking mom, dad and sister see how they look when they see the show with praying one second for Katie and her mom and sister, then the next smirking. It was not a smile of compassion, but something immature that does not lead to resolution or good will at all.
 
Replied By: gettin2old on Jun 14, 2013, 8:25PM - In reply to susanbk
can you and I, and millions of others watch that so called 'mother' and her own evil behavior and not wonder at Dr. Phil's state of mind....and then he even had the gall to answer Giselle's question about not only Nick leaving Katy and her family alone, but also herself, her husband and nasty daughter the same...and Dr. Phil jumps in to answer that she would....are you kidding Dr. Phil....are you that blind to the 'mother's' disturbing, taunting behavior....what got you fooled old dog???
 
Replied By: gettin2old on Jun 14, 2013, 8:21PM - In reply to vbeachmtf
When did Dr. Phil start answering for the behavior of an adult appearing on his shows?  I was completely appalled when Dr. Phil stated that the woman playing the 'mother' parent of Nick was caught in an evil, taunting, disrespectful waving during a commercial break would stop her child Nick and daughter from harassing and threatening Katy and members of her family.  And then at the end of the show, Dr. Phil shook hands with Nick's family first, how disengenuous and disrespectful of Katy and her family who are trying to stop bullying.  Dr. Phil should be ashamed of his own behavior, somehow he seemed empathetic to Nick's family, when from all that we saw and heard from Nick's family, we understand how Nick and his sister are the monster bullying type....how in world did Dr. Phil not call Nick's parents the spades that they are?  Was it because the so called mother said she prayed, at least twice that I heard, as though because she prays, she's the more Chrisian person....what a laugh, she's as Christian as the Baker's and Swaggarts of this world...can I get an amen Brother Dollar???
 
Replied By: marie231 on Jun 14, 2013, 8:00PM
I'm surprised at Dr. Phil's attitude toward Katie. It was obvious to me that this young woman has been bullied, and is in pain. The behavior of Nick's mother and sister was horrific. Dr. Phil, you dropped the ball on this. You should have called them out on their inappropriate behavior.
 
Replied By: marie231 on Jun 14, 2013, 7:50PM - In reply to happymemaw
I agree with you. I think dr. Phil dropped the ball here. It was clear that Katie was in pain, and the behavior of the mother and sister of the boy was inappropriate and disrespectful.
 
Replied By: veronica2000 on Jun 14, 2013, 6:41PM - In reply to mjames4896
he admitted it. So, your comment is a bit off.
 
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