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The shooting death of unarmed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin left many in the nation outraged and the suspect, George Zimmerman, labeled “The Most Hated Man in America” by some, and a racist by others. In a Dr. Phil exclusive, Zimmerman’s best friends, Mark and Sondra Osterman, who kept George secretly hidden away for more than a month before his arrest, speak out for the first time about the controversy. Mark, who works in law enforcement, admits he went with Zimmerman to the shooting range and helped him pick out the gun used to kill Trayvon -- a gun that did not have an external safety. Hear why the couple believes Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch leader, had every right to carry the deadly weapon. Do they believe he did the right thing by opening fire? And, did Mark coach Zimmerman for his police interview? Then, Trayvon’s stepmom, Alicia, breaks her silence for the first time and shares what she believes happened that fateful night. Did Zimmerman act in self-defense? Should he be convicted of second-degree murder? Where do you stand on the heated case? Watch and weigh in at DrPhil.com.

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Replied By: strine on Apr 14, 2013, 9:29PM - In reply to lestlecrunch
It is against the law to stalk someone (especially when told by a police officer not to). Mr Zimmerman is a wannabe police officer like other serial killers around.
 
Replied By: strine on Apr 14, 2013, 9:17PM - In reply to dee0123
It really doesn't matter what you think considering it wasn't only "his" neighbourhood to stalk people around in (with an unsafe gun). It was Trayvon's neighbourhood to and he murdered him (you can claim Trayvon was a criminal all you like, but George Zimmerman never saw him commit a crime at all). Who buys a gun without a safety?
 
Replied By: strine on Apr 14, 2013, 9:15PM
He wanted to be a police officer and he wasn't one. Previously he annoyed the 911 operators by calling constantly to dob on his neighbours. He carried a gun without a safety on it (i.e. was negligent). He followed a boy walking home just because of his idea of "suspicious", he was told not to follow the boy by a 911 operator (but he (i.e. "Rambo") still did it. He got off on the excitement of pretending to be a police officer- even when he wasn't on duty as even a security guard. He's a murderer and should be away for life. No more excuses.
 
Replied By: dee0123 on Dec 15, 2012, 11:39AM - In reply to alphak555
I honestly don't understand how anyone can say Trayvon was innocent & didn't do anything that night?  There's video of Trayvon in the 7-11 store & when the 3 stooges showed up.  Showing Trayvon waiting outside for them.  That IS evidence!  So, don't you think Trayvon was up to something illegal??  Selling/using drugs?  Trayvon WAS high in the 7-11 store.  The clerk noticed that, you can tell in the video how carefully he kept an eye on Trayvon.  Why?  If Trayvon was innocent?  The clerk of course won't testify to anything, because he's afraid of what will happen to him IF he told the truth.  Afterall, the Black Panther wanted Zimmerman, a bounty was put on his life.  But, luckily there's evidence in this case.  The 2 EYE witnesses, the 7-11 video, the pictures of Zimmerman's injuries, the Dr's report. 

So, that's why Zimmerman felt Trayvon looked suspicious.  IF I saw someone that appeared to be high, I would too.  I think Trayvon was ONLY scared, because HE knew he was guilty of doing something illegal.  Selling pot & using it also that night.  The video shows that the 3 stooges bought Trayvon a cigar & went out to give it to him.  The video shows Trayvon right outside the store waiting, pacing up & down.  Then, 1 of the 3 stooges went out, then back in.  Trayvon used that cigar to put the pot in.  Then, smoked it that night.  Then was able to throw it out, that's why it wasn't found on him.  But, the lighter from 7-11 was found on him.  While Zimmerman was on the phone with the dispatcher, he said Trayvon was just standing there staring at him.  Then, came forward, then ran.  WHY didn't Trayvon make it back where he was staying by then?  He had plenty of time & Zimmerman had lost him.  Trayvon came back to confront him, because he didn't like someone being suspicious of you.  So what!!  He would of been back in his house, all safe & sound had he of not wanted to come back & fight Zimmerman.  Trayvon was just scared because he probably knew Zimmerman was on the phone with the cops.  If Trayvon got in trouble for selling pot & smoking it that night, he would be kicked out of High School for good.  Since, he was already in trouble.
 
Replied By: dee0123 on Dec 15, 2012, 11:27AM - In reply to mlitch02
I know there's a lot of people that feel like you do.  But, here in America there's also a lot of people that feel Zimmerman was defending himself from the beating he was getting.  He feared for his life.  Trayvon was far from innocent.  Once, his school records are revealed, I believe on it will also show that he struck a bus driver.  That perhaps is why he was suspended for 10 days.  Because, in order to be suspended for 10 days it has to be something severe.

Trayvon imo WAS high that night.  At the 7-11 he WAS involved with the '3 stooges', & selling pot to them.  So, he WAS doing something illegal.  People keep saying Trayvon is innocent & didn't do anything illegal that night.  I disagree.  I'm NOT saying he deserved to die for that though.  But, I feel that Zimmerman had no other choice.  I feel his life WAS in danger.  IF it was me, I would do the same thing.  Sorry to say, but it's how I feel.  Trayvon should of just walked away, after that first punch.  I don't even feel he should of done that.  I feel he should of just continued on back home.  But, he doubled back to confront Zimmerman & fight him.  So, do you feel just because someone thought another person looked 'suspicious' (rightfully so now that we know what we know), that he deserved to get the beating from Zimmerman.  2 EYE witnesses even saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman.  The pictures showed his injuries to the back of his head, proving that his head WAS on the cement, while he was being punched.  We live in a much dangerous world these days.  I would do the same as Zimmerman, sorry but I'm just being honest.  If someone did what Trayvon did to my husband, family or myself, I would have to shoot him too.  Sadly, but I would have to. 

But, in this case, Zimmerman tried over a dozen times to call out for help.  No one did anything.  So, he was forced to do what he did.  Zimmerman never would of taken out his gun, had he not of been in that life threatening situation.  The gun was revealed only because, Zimmerman was struggling to get to the grass & his coat went up.  Trayvon saw the gun, & reached for it.  He said "you're the one that is going to be dead tonight".  So, what do you sugggest Zimmerman do in this case?
 
Replied By: dee0123 on Dec 15, 2012, 11:08AM - In reply to strine
With all do respect, although it's sad that anyone has to die, but I personally feel that Zimmerman was just trying to keep his neighborhood safe.   I think more people should get involved in the safety of their neighborhood.  We live in a more dangerous world, with less police out there.  I don't feel there's any 1 race that is turning to crime.  So, for me, I'm looking out for anyone.  Zimmerman helped in arrested 1 criminal, helped his neighbors out, even after break-in's & 1 woman was alone with her child.  Zimmerman give her his # to call day/night.  I believe he even helped secure her locks.  So, say what you want, that's your right.  But, I would be happy to have a person like Zimmerman in my neighborhood.  Too many people just look the other way.

Trayvon attacked Zimmerman with 1 punch breaking his nose & more or less knocking Zimmerman out.  Trayvon didn't have to do that, he could of just continued on his way home.  But, he didn't.  He came back to confront Zimmerman, just because Zimmerman was suspicious of him.  Zimmerman saw Trayvon, & said he looked like he was high.  (which I believe he was, he was in the 7-11 store).  Trayvon didn't know Zimmerman had a gun.  Trayvon then continued to beat Zimmerman, with his heading hitting the cement.  Why couldn't Trayvon just walk away, after breaking his nose?  Cussing him out as he walked away?  So, why is it Zimmerman's fault?  All the breakin's in the area were committed by all black & 1 white.  So, for me, I would be looking out for blacks.  IF it were Asians, Hispanics or Whites that were committing the crimes, I would be suspicious of that race.  Young kids have to 'think' before they want to go & beat the crap out of someone.  Because, this is going to continue to happen.  Cuss the person out, then learn to walk away.  Fathers need to teach their sons to walk away.  Even if you can't & end up throwing 1 punch, then walk away.  But, NO they want to beat the crap out of someone first.  Zimmerman could of been seriously injured or killed.  But, if teens & young adults are going to continue in this mindset, there's going to be more young people killed.  Because, we live in a dangerous society, people are carrying around guns.  I would.  I'm not going to have someone beat the crap out of me.
 
Replied By: strine on Dec 3, 2012, 9:17PM - In reply to dee0123
You seem like you have an issue with young darker skinned individuals. Was Trayvon caught doing anything wrong? Was he caught painting a wall or stealing by George Zimmerman? Are painting a wall or stealing crimes worthy of the death sentence? Is George Zimmerman a judge? No, No and No. George ZImmerman is the failure in a successful family who was trying to use a young man (and other people) to get himself into the police force. How many times did he falsely dob on his neighbours and other people (who were never caught or even proven to have done anything) to the police force? George Zimmerman was attention seeking with the polcie and he also got angry with an officer who did not give him the attention he craved. Clearly narcissistic if not a sociopath.
 
Replied By: mlitch02 on Dec 3, 2012, 8:38PM
I think this boy was murdered plain and simple.Zimmerman had no reason to shoot this young innocent boy and when doctor Phil highlighted his background -his true colours were revealed.His friend  Mark clearly influenced him to carry and use a gun too.The female friend says 'this isnt the wild wild west' when they discuss the $10000 hit out on zimmerman,Umm lady your friend killed an innocent boy-he was not  in the wild wild west but your saying what zimmerman done was okay.I live in Australia and we have strict gun laws and although illegal weapons are around there is far less gun crime and shootings-ban guns I say.Trey deserves justice-his life was robbed and his family can never have him back and Ifeel so sad for them and his lost life.
 
Replied By: mlitch02 on Dec 3, 2012, 8:36PM
I think this boy was murdered plain and simple.Zimmerman had no reason to shoot this young innocent boy and when doctor Phil highlighted his background -his true colours were revealed.His friend  Mark clearly influenced him to carry and use a gun too.The female friend says 'this isnt the wild wild west' when they discuss the $10000 hit out on zimmerman,Umm lady your friend killed an innocent boy-he was not  in the wild wild west but your saying what zimmerman done was okay.I live in Australia and we have strict gun laws and although illegal weapons are around there is far less gun crime and shootings-ban guns I say.Trey deserves justice-his life was robbed and his family can never have him back and Ifeel so sad for them and his lost life.
 
Replied By: alphak555 on Dec 3, 2012, 8:17PM
I am grateful that I live in Australia where I can act any way I lika even suspicious and not be killed!  This boy was murdered because he acted suss! In whose opinion? Maybe he was acting suss because there was a man acting like a vigilante! Maybe the boy was worried that a grown man was following him and paying him too much attention! Maybe tray noticed George staring at him and tray got nervous ! Tray was right to be nervous because George would have appeared like a stalker or someone not to be trusted! The poor boy, followed by a nut bag with a gun! 

Tray was killed for behaving the wrong way in someone else's eyes! Thank god George will never be a judge, something I read he wanted to be!

I hope the courts get this tragedy right and send a message to others not to take the law in your own hands! 
 
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