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(Original Air Date: 09/16/11) Dr. Phil investigates the latest trend in online dating: sugar babies hooking up with sugar daddies. College girls and recent graduates who are struggling with mounting debt and a weak job market are turning to websites, such as SeekingArrangement.com, that introduce them to wealthy men who, in exchange for companionship — and maybe sex — help them pay their bills. Is this the Internet version of the world’s oldest profession, or just a niche dating site? Four self-proclaimed sugar babies: Kristen, 21, Jennifer, 28, Janelle, 30, and Tracy, 31, passionately defend why their relationships differ from prostitution. Are their arranged monthly allowances and extravagant gifts the equivalent of being taken to fancy restaurants by a boyfriend or financially supported by a husband? Meet the creator of the website, Brandon, and hear why he says there’s nothing wrong with these “mutually beneficial relationships.” Former prosecutor and CNN analyst Sunny Hostin has some legal words of warning for Brandon and the ladies. Plus, an outraged father confronts Brandon in defense of his daughter, who he recently learned is on the site, and see why a self-proclaimed proud sugar daddy makes a hasty exit before meeting Dr. Phil! Watch the show and then weigh in: If you could provide companionship in exchange for money, and nobody would ever know, would you?

Find out what happened on the show.
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Replied By: brainiac65 on Dec 27, 2012, 5:26AM
I saw this show today in the Netherlands. 

I do not think that prostitution is a very bad thing for everyone, but......
The most disturbing thing is when people try to convince themselves and others that this kind of "commercial intimacy" is okay, or a good thing to do. Even if they give it another name, or call it something else. Deep inside they know that it is not okay! And I know there are even younger students in this line of business. Misguided indeed! Offcourse the "pimp" thinks it's okay when he makes a fortune of it. 


Remember that almost everyone thinks this is negative and a bad thing to do. They only say positive things if they have something to gain with it. 
 
Replied By: brainiac65 on Dec 27, 2012, 2:49AM
I saw this Dr.Phil show in the netherlands today. 
What really disturbes me is the fact that these women are really misguided, and not if prostitution is a bad thing or not. 

I have seen even younger students in this line of work, and offcourse the "Pimps" use all kind of words and excuses to convince them it is not prostitution and therefore not against the law and OK. But most of these women feel it is not okay, and their self-value wil sink more and more, still trying to convince themselves it is OK. The truth is that they sell their most intimate things for money until there is nothing left to share in a really special realtionship with special people. 


These sugar-baby students are simply NOT independant, and want a "Daddy" to take care of them and make things easy for them. This goes (and grows) very deep sometimes, and they'll do anything for "Daddy" as long as they do not have to work themselves, or take their responsability in any way (like a little baby). Maybe this may seem okay for a while, until the relation ends, or worse. The "sugar-baby" is not interesting, attractive, or wanted anymore. 


Be carefull with asking money for your most intimate things.  It seems like a lot today, but garbage tomorrow. 
 
Replied By: gr8m8eh on Oct 12, 2012, 10:28PM
After watching this show, on you tube, I was not gobsmacked in the least. So what! ? Really? I listened open minded.  Girl goes to a website that hooks her up with a man that wants someone to spoil and seek "attention"  Girl wants man to spoil and give her attention.  Regardless of how it goes down, it is "arranged" before it happens.  It is mutually agreed on, and is totally free will on both parts. Grown ups.  Each is able to make a stupid decision and a smart one.  

Modern day Prostitution?  Sure...ok...but who cares? The people involved don't mind.  Its the others out there that have their opinions on what this is. 


If you don't like it, don't worry about it. If its affecting your current situation.....its not the website or the women that got you here.....its the decision by your spouse to seek an arrangement.  The girl involved doesn't want him full time.  "arranged that way."


Call it what you like. Its not my idea of what I want in a partner or "lifestyle" but I certainly don't think its wrong for these people on either end to pursue their fun..."arrangement."  Too many people with opinions that should just find something more productive to fight against....this is "entertainment" at best.


IMO.

 
Replied By: missvalentine on Jul 22, 2012, 10:09PM
This show is airing currently in Australia.
I just wanted to say that I don't think this is being shown fairly. I think it shows a very one sided opinion of the sugar-daddy/sugar-baby relationship dynamic, and I don't think it's fair to call these women prostitutes.
Personally this is not the kind of relationship that I would chose to have, but I don't think that it's fair to absolutely degrade the people who do.
For instance, the single mum of three who doesn't date married men, and only sees one person at a time, she is very clearly using the site for it's intended purpose - which to me seems to be bringing people with similar opinions together. Is it really any different from a dating website that brings together dog lovers, car lovers, or in a more extreme case, people who are interested in BDSM etc. etc. etc. etc...?
I think that the law-student did a lot of damage to the case for, and helped very much with the case against.
My main problem here is that only the extreme cases got a chance to speak, the woman who had her sugar-daddy 'feed' her purse, and the rather outspoken law-student.
The single mother who dates these men didn't get a chance to speak her mind, or to discuss her point of view.

Is this a life choice I would make? No, because money is not something that I consider to be important in my relationships. But I don't think that makes people who DO value money in a relationship bad people, wrong, or engaged in prostitution.

I don't know, I guess I just wanted to say that there probably are people who abuse the intended meaning of this website and who do use it to find purely sexual encounters, but to call all of the women engaged in this sort of relationship prostitutes is unfair, degrading, and well, basically, it's down right rude.
Every relationship has it's perks, and some that this particular form of website helps to create happens to be that the sugar-babies have financial backing.

It's not for everyone, obviously, but it is for some people, and I don't think it's fair to judge them all by the actions of the few.
 
Replied By: texas76034 on Jun 20, 2012, 9:16AM
I am recently divorced. The divorce was the result of repeated infidelity y my ex-husband. The divorce process was the most painful experience of my life. At the center was a battle for custody of our 13 year old daughter. The courts were determined to treat our case as a simple case of "he has moved on" and she is "the woman scorned". I did not agree. My ex-husband had been displaying behaviour that I felt was damaging to our daughter, but I could not get the social workers, counselors, etc. to take me seriously. After a one year fight and $300,000 in legal fees. I gave up.We share custody 50/50.

I work from home and sometimes watch Dr. Phil while I work. I just happend to catch this show. Some portions of the stories sounded familiar. During the divorce process I asked for 3 years of financial records. I was able to trace purchases of fitness center memberships, tanning club memberships, spa treatments, women's clothing, handbags, air tickets, hotel rooms, expensive meals, etc. After the show I checked his credit card statements and found a charge to seekingarrangements.com.

Now it all makes sense. My ex-husband was hiring prostitutes. What ended our marriage was that he actually fell for one of them. In addition to sex, he actually paid her to befriend our daughter and turn her against me. She tutored my ex-husband on how to look good for the courts. She even tutored him on the divorce process and how to make me look unstable. I finally got a restraining order, so he was unable to bring her in contact with our daughter and he was unable to help her financially. That ended the relationship. He thought she would leave her husband for him, but she was only interested in the money.

It really disturbs me that some of you people out there actually think that this is OK. My daughter is going to have to live the fact that she befriended this prostitute for the rest of her life. My marriage has ended. My ex-husband is now re-married to another one of his "sugar babies" who he treats like a prostitute in front of my daughter. How is she going to grow up with positive feelings about womanhood?

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. The courts need to become much more aware. If I had known this during the divorce process it would have made a big difference.
 
Replied By: tardisgrl on Jun 12, 2012, 3:37AM
Also, if these women aren't comfortable telling their parents what they do, then why do it? If you can't tell your parents, then how proud of this "job" are you really?

 
Replied By: tardisgrl on Jun 12, 2012, 3:31AM
To me, these women are just high paid escorts. "Selling your hotness". Who are you kidding? "Hanging out" with married men? It sounds like your "the other women" and who wants to be that? The one's who say they don't see married men - You don't really know if they are married or not. Wedding rings come off and people lie all the time. Besides, having all these shallow relationships cannot satisfy them. Depending on a man for money? No thanks. Save up all that money you "earn" sweetie. Your looks will not last forever and when your sugar daddies get tired of your looks, then you'll have to find some other kind of "income". Speaking of their "income" - not paying taxes? I hope the IRS comes knowking at your door, because once they find out, they WILL want their money.

Good for you Dr.Phil. Call it as it is.
 
Replied By: mharmsen on Jun 10, 2012, 4:47PM
Honestly, this sounds like a very easy escape from my college bills and debt. I'm going to school right now for physical therapy, and my debt is mounting every semester. Why not do this if you're just going to have a relationship. I would never have sex with these men, but I mean, why not? Why not do this for a little extra money. I guess I just don't really understand why this is "prostitution" if I wouldn't be doing it for sex or any sexual acts.
 
Replied By: kcodyart on Jun 9, 2012, 9:02PM
Without a doubt, this is just a "modern" access to prostitution because street corners are "riskier."  Just curious, the issue was raised that these women are doing this to pay off college debt.  The state of GEORGIA uses lottery money to pay for college tuition as long as ANY student can maintain a 3.0 grade point average.   What a concept, even LOW income  families can afford college, as long their students put forth the effort.  EVERY state should do this.  PLEASE do a show about it.


Kathy Cody


Certified K-12 Art Teacher
 
Replied By: oleole on Jun 9, 2012, 4:30PM
i just finished watching your very one sided  and slanted view of the sugarbaby/sugarddy relationship. its an arrangement. the only one that seems to view the relationship as its supposed to be or as how i view it got no play on your show. she has a  connection with her sugardaddies only sees one at time and doesnt see married men.  in my humble experience there is a relationship and a connection between the two parties physical and emotional with all the things you mentioned pre planning, stability, dating and having a good time as well as caring and support.

i have had a number of sugarbabies over the years and the ones that are hookerish as i put it i dont see them anymore.i would never have a sugar baby who i felt i was hurting or didnt want to genuinely want to be with me. i am still in touch with most of them and support them in what they want and help as much as i can. i wont deny that there is a sex for money aspect to the relationship but how many women go to college for what i call their "mrs" or become nurses to marry doctors or date the guy who takes them to dinner at mortons rather than mcdonalds or has a porsche instead of a tercel. its all relative. so i really dont see the difference. this is more honest.

there are a number of reasons why women become sugarbabies besides the obvious, they have daddy issues, they like older men, they dont like guys their age, they want to be pampered, the want to be taught what to do in bed, the want to feel safe. its not just hey i want to be a hooker give me money.

as you can see i am a fairly educated person with not one spelling error in my reply. which is more than i can say for most of the black and white submissions that you have received. your show is obviously done for ratings and i understand that but before you start stoning people remember that Jesus Christ Himself was friends with a prostitute her name was mary magdalyn and that women around the world are being treated far worse than someone wanting to take care of a young person and in return get some physical attention.   
    
 
 
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