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Concerned moms Iris and Leisa say they have not seen their children in more than a year. Iris’ son, Elon, 26, and Leisa’s daughter, Ashley, 27, have cut off contact with their families in order to live together with Clemente Suriano, otherwise known as Golden Elk. Is this group a cult? What are the characteristics of a cult? Follow along as Iris and Leisa attempt to re-establish contact with their children.

Find out what happened on the show.
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Replied By: fozzy1013 on Aug 26, 2014, 2:15PM
First of all jesspea don't ask them to trade one cult for another. Your basically using "Golden EELs" technique that got these poor kids in this position in the first place. Religion has a place, in your heart and mind. Not on your lips or in someone else s mind. If like minded people want to gather and worship then I say good for them. As long as it is voluntary, not as a result of being made to feel less than, threatened by consequences, or condemned by some horrible fate if they don't. I think religion should be a private matter and a matter of the heart, not a tool to bend other humans to your will or way of thinking. Sorry about the soapbox but I hate it when people see religion as a tool or weapon. Back to the post lol, "Right to Assemble" Some of you concerned citizens in the area should help these parents out. You have the right to assemble and from what I've heard from the neighbors they wouldn't mind accommodating you at all. Picket him, march, sing, do anything to get a response. As long as they/He are not confronted nothing will change. Force He/Them to react and maybe when they figure people are not just going to let it go they will have to confront their issue at hand which is a group of people wanting to know what's going on. I myself would not be as patient or polite. I apologize if this offends anyone but I speak my mind. Also I am not by any means inferring anything by saying this. If that were my daughter. I would have a word with the "Golden EEL" one way or another. He would have an understanding that if my daughter was not immediately instructed to make contact with her family I would be back at some point and I would not return so cordial the second time around.  The main difference between religion and Cultism in my opinion is this. True religion is transparent. Anything other than that in my opinion is a form of Cultism. People who are proud of what they do, what they worship, and the message they bring want the whole world to know it. "Shout it from the mountain top" if you will. If you hide your beliefs and it's activities you are either ashamed or scared that it is morally wrong and maybe illegal. Anyways, you folks close to these families mobilize with these poor women over their children and the siblings as well. I am a couple thousand miles away or I'd be there lickety split!  Someone should intervene.
 
Replied By: jenamarie686 on Jun 10, 2014, 7:32AM
Please please do a update on this story!!
 
Replied By: sivannava on Oct 29, 2013, 1:47PM
I am really curious to know if there is any update on this story. Is Clemente and his clan still living in the same area? Are the son and daughter still there? Have we learned anything about this "cult"?
 
Replied By: jesspea on May 14, 2013, 12:52PM
This is definitely a cult, there is no doubt about it. Also everything that they have said about their children's bizzar behavior is classic to demon posession. Especially since they are not engaging in some harmless "spiritual" religion, they are actually engaging in satanic rituals. Which makes them very vulnerable to demonic attack and opens the door to demonic possesion. The only thing that can possibly help them is the grace of God and if they were ever believers of Christ in their lives they may be able to find a way out and be totally free from the bondage that satan has put them in. I wonder if their families were ever believers of Christ. They should try to contact a man named Dr. Neil T Anderson. He has written many books on the subject of demonic attack including Victory over the Darkness and The Bondage Breaker. I hope that the family finds the true way into saving their children and themselves. My prayers are with them.
 
Replied By: crystaltwo on Jun 6, 2011, 8:16PM - In reply to jezzen
Thanks so much - I appreciate your comments.  Yes, we have to remain positive that our daughter will find the courage to stand up and make that call to us.  Our son and all her extended family all wait for that day, it has affected everyone she has left behind.   We have always been so proud of her achievements and her lovely soft nature - no-one can believe that this has happened to us as we have always been a close family unit.  Thanks again for your thoughts..... Sasha
 
Replied By: jezzen on Jun 6, 2011, 6:04PM - In reply to crystaltwo
My heart goes to you as a mother, how agonizing it to think what has been happening,
you are crying out but not heard.
The best thing is... you knew she is alive.. and HOPE is alive, hold unto it...
HOPE is what you have right now.

I pray that your HOPE be re-newed everyday until that hope come into reality and
becomes touchable. May your daughter find courage and find a way to release herself
from the possesion of the greed act of this guy.
Something good is going to happen, stay in the positive, because what atre you hoping
for can be yours..
 
Replied By: crystaltwo on Jun 6, 2011, 5:58PM - In reply to austinstill
Its obvious you are not a parent yet - until that day you would not understand the love a parent has for a child!!
 
Replied By: crystaltwo on Jun 6, 2011, 5:21PM - In reply to luv2bfitt
I agree with your comments - I watched the program from Australia yesterday on 6th June.  Our daughter has been isolated from her whole family  since she met and married a 'control freak'.  He was extremely jealous of the love she had for us, so he decided to isolate her.  We cannot ring her because she is not to answer the phone - we send her a birthday gift each year (in the hope she will receive it).  We tell her in the card that we love her and will always be here for her, which we will.  She became withdrawn in the beginning (we were not aware this would happen to our family).  We feel we can do nothing but just wait until she sees this person for what he is.  I have no doubt she still loves us all but she is afraid of the consequences if she contacts us.  It has been 11 years since we have seen her.  Any thoughts of anything we can do in this situation? Sasha
 
Replied By: jezzen on Jun 6, 2011, 8:11AM
100% CULT..

I just saw it today  (Australian TV) and without much word and explaination, I am more than convinced
that this is a CULT.

Elon and Ashley are victims of the scheme of demonic power. I'm sure not all people will believe, but
there are power that works, Demonic and Godly power.

The mission of the demons is to kill and to destroy. To kill the senses, to destroy whatever is left. These
young people are already in the power of the spirit of the demons. They have lost their human senses.
They are already taken by the power of darkness. They don't know anything but to obey that power within them.
But then, if anyone believes in prayer, there is extra-ordinary power that it carries. It is a power from
GOD alone, and that power can transform lives, it can even rise the dead. believe me, i knew what i'm
talking about. there are millions of testimonies in this regard.
This is a battle between God and Satan, and if you believe God, anything can happen.. GOD can turn
satan upside-down.
Saten has unlimited power, while God has all the power in the universe and if GOD says YES noone can say NO. If GOD close the door, noone can open it.

To the family ::: PRAYER is your weapon .. it is your power.
 
Replied By: willosy on Jun 6, 2011, 3:24AM
Hi,

This episode just aired in Australia so I am very much behind the eight ball.

I'd have to say this is definately a cult.  There is some very good material to read on this especially a book by Steve HASSAN titled "Releasing the Bonds".

I have recently outed my wife from a cult group and this show really hit home for me.  What I was dissappointed with though was the lack of referal information to Cult experts whom can help eg:- Rick ROSS whom already has links to Dr. Phil and Steve HASSAN former Moon Cult.

Getting loved ones out from cults is a very sensitive process and it's like walking a tight rope.

Good Luck and I hope this all turns out for the best!

XXOO
 
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